
Before we address our last two questions, let’s review the above quote of God. This week the Lord reminded me of something very profound in His word. Do we see the “Test me on this” part?
Do we really realize that this is a promise, even a urging promise, to us to–see if the Lord will keep His word as to great blessings? Yes it is!
That means that this should be a great indication we are doing the right thing in returning our tithes. In other words the Lord will confirm He is behind our actions in the proper tithing. He must keep His word.
It’s amazing how deep God’s word is when we take notice of each and every word and sentence and BELIEVE it.
A friend told me something I have always remembered when I first came into the SDA church. “Robert, your best testimony is your own personal testimonies.”
So let me briefly say that before I was a faithful tithe payer, my own personal business was doing fairly good, but not overly so. I was an “also ran” in a large field of appliance repairmen. However, once I started to pay the tithes on a weekly basis to the storehouses the Lord has guided, I started to see a great increase in the monthly income. It was sure and steady and has continued to this very day! We are rated number one by the people in our large city of approx. 800,000.
We are convinced that this is the fulfillment of the Malachi promise of the Lord. So yours truly isn’t just posting here some fanciful ideas, we have been witness to His word becoming reality. The way we have paid the Lord’s tithes–He has blessed and it’s real.
This promise is real my brethren, and it is my prayer that you believe this and truly consider this issue seriously. If we are preaching to the choir, praise the Lord, but if not we pray that no longer will present truth believers wallow around in this issue and get down to business!
This issue should be view from a business view point. Money kept track of DAILY, if you are self employed. If not, then it should be as required when the checks come in. This post is helpful in doing your calculations –http://shepherds-rod.org/answerers/answerer4.htm#47
One last thing before we move on to our next question, this promise of the Lord comes with the understanding that we are walking in the light of the Lord (signing and crying and keeping His holy 10 commandments). If we are still stealing, lying, coveting, etc. then we are a regular transgressor and this promise may not apply even though we tithe (There is a Rod reference in the Codes and will post it when we locate it).
3. Where is the “storehouse” today, as there are many so-called Davidian organizations?
As we mentioned in part one this question is very far reaching and requires much study from many angles.
First, let us identify and thus eliminate what cannot be a storehouse. The Lord’s Rod shows us the prime example.
This issue is thoroughly covered in Question No. 97 titled “CANNOT MY HOME BE HIS “STOREHOUSE”? (Answerer, vol. 4, p.44-45).
So those who do make their own home their own personal tithe dispensary ( and those who teach this) are blatant trespassers and are fooling themselves.As the Rod says they are “seriously handicapping the Lord’s work, bleeding and subverting His treasury, and thus disorganizing His work and reducing the church to a mere shell..” (Ibid p.45)
So if it cannot be a home, or by extension private individuals, then it must logically be an organization. One that is established with an executive council, and existing members, printing abilities, Bible workers, etc. In other words one that has the set up similar to the original Davidian organization of the original Mt. Carmel. The prophet’s model should be THE model.
Next, the organization should teach and promote the original SRod message. This we will touch more on as we discuss the various current organizations.
Before we go into specifics on the organizations, we want to emphasis that this post is primarily for those who are abiding in the Lord’s counsel and not attempting to “police” any organization (publicly or privately) , nor withdraw from tithing due to our own perceptions that the work is not done right. These references should be helpful in this regard–
SC, vol.2, p.7, SC, vol.1, no.14, p.9, Testimonies vol. 9, p.249, Tract 4, p.43-44, Answerer vol. 4, Q-98,
Ok , let’s now review some current organizations and give our imput. But keep in mind that these are our suggestions and each should, under prayer and even fasting, seek the Lord to see how He guides you.
Salem–
There is no doubt brother Don Adair has done some very good things in Davidia through the years. In fact I am blessed often by reading one of his many reports on different subjects of the message. Additionally, his organization produces the finest Rod Scriptural Index in Davidia we believe.
However, the Rod makes clear that the understanding of the 144,000 is a salvational issue (SRod, vol. 1, p.14, SRod Tract 1, p.5). And Mr. Adair has been the leading proponent on the “those with” living SDA members who survive the church judgment of Ezek.9. Which we believe is false and not in the Lord’s Rod.
Therefore we cannot, in good conscience advocate this organization as a storehouse due to this teaching. See our posts on the 144,000 issue.
Bashan —
Again, this organization has some teachings that we cannot advocate. However, we want to stress that if an organization teaches something that is salvational and in error, then that should automatically eliminate it as a storehouse. How do we know if the issue is salvational? Logically we check the Rod. For instance the 144,000 issue IS salvational as per the aforementioned references.
Bashan was founded by MJ Bingham. And those of us who have studied know that he was the beginning teacher of the “those with” issue. So today, they, along with Salem are the two leading organizations promoting this false doctrine.
There are other teachings such as the “porter” prophet who must be leading the flock and speak inspired words of guidance. We should all know as Davidians that VTH was to be the last prophet to the SDA church (GCS and Jezreel Letter no. 9). So we cannot advocate this organization as a storehouse.
Brother Trevor Bingham is very active now in a “unity crusade”, yet we have not seen any public declarations of renouncement of error on their part. IF we see that we can by all means reconsider this situation.
UPA7.org–
For those of you who have followed this blog you may be familiar with our running saga with the leader of this group–Eric Edstrom.
There has already been much said about him and his group (see our post “The Sad Saga Continues” Part 1 and 2). So those who want to see the reasons we can’t support this organization please read our two part post. We point at least two reasons we cannot support this group.
Wavesheaf Ministries (Also known as the Davidian Seventh-day Adventists Association)–
The leader of this organization, Lennox Sam, was once a part of Waco assoc. He had a falling out of some doctrinal issues such as the new codes.
But he has formed his own group and teaches , among other things, TWO Ezekiel 9’s, one to the DSDA first “11th hour church” (day of reckoning), and the second one to the SDA church “9th hour church”. Also that the remnant people of God must have a “living” anti-typical kind David. Although he does not say he is this future king, he does so by silence when his followers say or indicate this.
Bottomline this organization is a classic example of “adding and subtracting” from the Rod. This is definitely not a storehouse in our estimation.
Davidian Seventh-day Adventist Organization of RedBluff/Yucaipa–
This group is headed by brother Tony Dugo, with one of the originators of the group sister Wanda as the figure head leader.
We do not have all the information we would like on this organization so we cannot logically advise yea or nay. We do know that they place a big emphasis on the new codes and very often send reports based on the “pre” Jacob’s time of trouble. Which is not primarily advocated in the original codes.
Mountain Dale —
Before we comment on this organization, by way of disclosure, this is the group that the Lord guided us to into the message. We heard our very first report of the Rod by listening to brother Glenroy Matthews “144,000, who are they”? online back in 2011.
We truly believe that this is one of God’s storehouse organizations, producing all the Rod literature. They are teaching the straight Rod. Yes, they do promote the new codes, but as we pointed out in our recent post “The Sad Saga Continues, Part 2” we do not believe this is a salvational issue.
They are very active and spreading the message around the world and have the original model of a executive council, printing division, a bible workers working in the field, etc.
Do they have short comings? Yes they do. Such as a real need of aged, sick and nursery home care. But we are following counsel of the Lord to make our complaint known , then after that it’s on the organization leaders not us (SC, vol.2, p.7).
Mt. Carmel, Waco —
This organization is , as we know, the sister organization of Mountain dale. They have broken away and stand as an independent organization. The support and complaint issues are basically the same as Mt. Dale. This org is very good with updates such as news from the vineyard.
This organization is VERY active in spreading the message. Many think that, behind Bashan, it has the second largest membership in Davidia. The de facto leader, brother Archer and I have met twice in the last 4 months and we have been impressed with his efforts to go to studies within the USA and around the world in order to recruit new believers to the Lord’s message.
Yes, like Mt. Dale there is the great need of elder and sick care, but the vast amount of work coming out of them is enough for us to jump on board. We believe this is a storehouse of the Lord.
4. Should there be only one storehouse today?
It is amazing how , when one believes in His word, His promise of the Spirit of Truth “guide you into ALL truth” is applicable and able to be seen. This guiding should amaze and astound us!
Last Sabbath we were in church and as the sermon was a typical peace and safety message, as I often do I turned to present truth. I opened up the Testimonies book and started reading. The page found was exactly what was needed. It was about how the “publishing houses” are not to be under one singular control. Let us read.
“The Lord does not design that the workers in His institutions shall look to or trust in man. He desires them to be centered in Him.
Never should our publishing houses be so related to one another that one shall have power to dictate as to the management of another. When so great power is placed in the hands of a few persons, Satan will make determined efforts to pervert the judgment, to insinuate wrong principles of action, to bring in a wrong policy; in so doing he can not only pervert one institution, but through this can gain control of others and give a wrong mold to the work in distant parts.
Thus the influence for evil becomes widespread. Let each institution stand in its moral independence, carrying on its work in its own field. Let the workers in each feel that they are to do their work as in full view of God, His holy angels, and the unfallen worlds.” (Testimonies ,vol.7, p.173)
We cannot find at this point Rod references for more than one storehouse, but we should know that the storehouse represents the house(s) where His meat is stored and then dispensed. Today as we have explained in our discussion of the organizations, there is more than one that we believe meets the storehouse qualifications.
But let make a clear distinction. There may be several storehouses in God’s vineyard but that does not mean that it can request and accept tithes. Q-97, vol. 4 of Answerer warns us clearly.
In summary, the flock has been scattered after the head on the model storehouse (VTH) died. We can only see the hand of the Lord separating the work to different places of the US. Therefore, yes , we do believe there is more than one storehouse today.
In closing brethren, let us take seriously this salvational issue. And step forward and do the right thing. we can only make our suggestions and the real decision to each of you must come from prayer and fasting and to be “guided into all truth” (John 16:13).
One thing is certain, we cannot murmur and spread accusations against what God has clearly made and allowed. The following is great counsel.
“If the Conference business is not managed according to the order of the Lord, that is the sin of the erring ones. The Lord will not hold you responsible for it, if you do what you can to correct the evil. But do not commit sin yourselves by withholding from God His own property.”(EGW’s counsel and practice on Tithe, p.4)
“Let none feel at liberty to retain their tithe, to use according to their own judgment. They are not to use it for themselves in an emergency, nor to apply it as they see fit, even in what they may regard as the Lord’s work.” (Testimonies, vol. 9, p.247)
Let all those who fear the Lord take heed, as this is a life and death matter.
“There is great need of instruction concerning the obligations and duties to God, especially in regard to paying an honest tithe.” (Testimonies, vol. 9, p.250)
NOTE: WE HAVE AN UPDATE STUDY ON THE STOREHOUSE?HEADQUARTERS ISSUE IN THE FOLLOWING 5 PART REPORT —
Following Our Storehouse History (Part 1 of 5)