Archive | September, 2015

Murmuring and Marking

22 Sep


How well we Davidians should know the difference between murmuring and the discussing of certain ones among us, who are known division makers. How important it is we discuss others in the right way.

Let us delve more into the difference and what the Inspired sources tell us about this important distinction.

The Scriptures are clear in regards to gossiping and murmuring.

In Exodus, we know that the people continually murmured against Moses and even God.

“And the people murmured against Moses, saying, What shall we drink?”(Exodus 15:24)

“And in the morning, then ye shall see the glory of the LORD; for that He heareth your murmurings against the LORD: and what are we, that ye murmur against us?And Moses said, This shall be, when the LORD shall give you in the evening flesh to eat, and in the morning bread to the full; for that the LORD heareth your murmurings which ye murmur against him: and what are we?

Your murmurings are not against us, but against the LORD.And Moses spake unto Aaron, Say unto all the congregation of the children of Israel, Come near before the LORD: for he hath heard your murmurings.” (Exodus 16:7-9)

“How long shall I bear with this evil congregation, which murmur against me? I have heard the murmurings of the children of Israel, which they murmur against me.”(Numbers 14:27)

“Do all things without murmurings and disputings..” (Phil.2:14)

The dictionary describes murmuring as: a mumbled or private expression of discontent.

History surely shows us that God can never be happy with us when we murmur. We should avoid airing our complaints. This author as well as most everyone else has been guilty of this all too often mistake.

But as in any sin, we should kneel in prayer that God helps us to be an overcomer in this regard.

Now in regard to the other, “marking”, let us look at this important word of God.

“Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.” (Romans 16:17)

Let us stand back for a moment and analyze these instructions from God. We see that in our vineyard work we can run into those whom are causing “divisions” among us. They are bringing false truth (doctrine).

But how can we know among ourselves who to watch? Are we each suppose to act privately, without conversation among us? Select certain ones solely by ourselves and then avoid them? This makes little sense. We should discuss this issue among our co-workers.

Let me give an example. In our public Facebook group, called Truth Tellers, we have meetings throughout the year. But some of our meetings are just for the administrators.

During the meeting occasionally we have discussed certain people who have caused division among our group. It may be they are trying to teach false doctrine (other prophets to come to the SDA church after VTH for example). It may be that they continually criticize others (ie. murmuring).

But our duty is to “mark” them, and to know amongst ourselves what they are doing. This is Biblical and it shows we care about the integrity of our site. I have been added to other so-called “Rod” sites where any thing and everything is allowed to be posted. These administrators are slothful servants, bad shepherds of the God’s flock!

After noticing such heresy being allowed I reach out to the admin. and let them know that they should be paying attention. Most usually want to correct the problem, others protect the posters and say they have religious ‘liberty.” This is ludicrous! Did we not just read that those people are to be avoided? That means remove them if they persist.

Further, Scripture gets more direct with this Inspired reference–

“Anyone who runs ahead without remaining in the teaching of Christ does not have God. Whoever remains in His teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you but does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your home or even greet him.”(2 John 1:9-10)

Do not let them into your home. Is not the Rod site an administrators “home” of sorts? Where the most precious end time truth is to be posted and taught? Ofcourse! Can we sit back in unconcerned indifference and wink at such postings , possibly taking a real chance that someone new to the faith (ie. just learning the Rod message) may see a harmful link and thus be snared?

There are some real deceivers out there today , so we must stand at our post and pay attention! The Rod message gives us this solemn warning.

“’s only safety will be in the teaching of Elijah, for there will be no other voice of timely Truth and authority to whom one may turn.  Any others will lead their victims blind-folded into perdition.” (GCS, p.8)

And man alive are there “others” out there!

Let us remember the difference between murmuring and marking. Of discussing corrective measures and warnings amongst us. When we murmur we complain without any specific purpose. But when we mark we are doing so to help protect the innocent among us. One way the Lord is pleased , the other He is not.

“There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers.”(Proverbs 6:16-19)

Let us try to unite wherever possible by reaching out to the offender privately first, but when the time comes to discuss among us who is sowing discord, let us to do it in a way that the Word of God indicates.