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Mountain Dale Letter

18 Aug

 

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Open Letter to Mt. Dale Leadership

Greetings in our King’s name and may we continue to strive to be among that number to stand with Him in that glorious kingdom so very near!

Intent —

“God does not propose to remove all occasion for unbelief. He gives evidence, which must be carefully investigated with a humble mind and a teachable spirit; and all should decide from the weight of evidence.”– Testimonies for the Church , Volume 3, p. 255

In this report we’d like to highlight what we saw in the session and also we’ve seen and heard over the last few years working in His vineyard concerning the controversial new codes. We hope that this will help our brethren “weigh the evidence” and then make that decision in the closet of prayer.

Session —-

May we suggest more preparation and planning for session next year. This year it was not well prepared and as the people proclaiming the Lord’s Elijah message we should valve this time we get together and make it a special media event like in times past when it was published on Live Stream.

New code discussion —-

Many of us were disappointed in the fairness of the discussion. It was very one sided. Because of this we felt it important to let the brethren know that instead of a few quotes and a couple paragraphs from HEARYETHEROD blog post, we should present more concrete evidence and to weigh the situation properly.

Controversy —

For many decades Davidians have simply taken the new codes as a part of the Golden Bowl. This began to change in late 1990’s as brother Lennox Sam and Michael Graham undertook a thorough study of the new codes, it’s history, the so-called errors, the hiding of many new codes, etc.

While many of us believe that today, unfortunately bro. Sam has departed from the original message to a large degree, nevertheless, his report was in-depth and today stands out as one of the most thorough historical accounts of the new codes.

Personally, I believe there is some good evidence for both sides. When one looks at Vol. 13, no.5-6, there appears great and deep answers to Sabbath observance. It all appears very deep and true, such as our prophet would write.

However, take Vol. 11, no.1 for example. This new code was published by Florence Houteff, as all the new codes were, and it actually declared what the 42 months anti-type prophecy was concerning Rev. 11! Soon this code disappeared from distribution. Why? Because it was flat out error.

This is what makes these new codes controversial –error mixed with truth. Some Florence Houteff codes truth and some error. That is the history of these new codes.

Extremists —-

Because there is good points on both sides, those who take the position that one is lost for taking this side or that side, we feel is– an extremist. The Lord ,we all know took the reins into His own hands after the knockout blow and preserved the Rod movement and kept it from disintegrating, yet nearly all those old timers believed in the new codes. Historical writings from the sessions and meetings confirm this.

Are we going to say all those faithful pioneers, like brother Warden, brother Green, brother Sidney Smith, sister Bonnie Smith, etc.–are lost? Likewise because the new codes have been compromised as a thorough study proves are we going to say that those who don’t believe in them are lost as well? Either way both are extreme positions.

It was mentioned after this session’s code discussion by one of Mt. Dale leaders that “Satan” is trying to take us off the message, implying that those who don’t believe in the new codes ,don’t’ believe in Inspiration and are thus working for Satan—this is extreme and uncalled for brethren.

Questions and comments —-

1) Why are the “missing” new codes not distributed yet were published by Florence Houteff?

10 Symbolic Code No. 8
10 Symbolic Code No. 9
10 Symbolic Code No. 11
10 Symbolic Code No. 12
11 Symbolic Code No. 1
11 Symbolic Code No. 5
11 Symbolic Code No. 9
11 Symbolic Code No. 10
11 Symbolic Code No. 11
12 Symbolic Code No. 10
14 Symbolic Code No. 1
14 Symbolic Code No. 6

NOTE: According to SAM/GRAHAM REPORT they were found. They exist at the Carroll Collections Library at Baylor University in Waco, Texas. They can be viewed in person (not online).

2) Has Sam/Graham’s request to make these missing new codes known to the brethren ever been considered by Mt. Dale?

3) Why do we allow Florence Houteff/her council’s false prophecy private words to be part of the Golden Bowl? “a fact and approaching reality” says Florence Houteff?

“On September 21, 1936 Brother Houteff made the remarks concerning the possibility of trouble coming to the church after the sealing of the saints and before the slaughter of Ezekiel 9, and if so what the results would be and why. Since Revelation 11 has more recently been unfolded before us we should be able to see that it is not just a possibility, but rather both a fact and approaching reality that trouble is coming to the church before the slaughter of Ezekiel 9. None therefore need be ignorant concerning what we must now be doing about it.)” {11 SC no.7 p.3)

4) The SAM/GRAHAM REPORT made the startling discovery.

“Brethren, we would like to draw your attention to some more startling facts. The symbolic codes in the 5 volumes now being distributed are not complete Codes there are many missing pages, which are shown in Exhibit “I”. Was this an oversight or were these pages lost, as some brethren were told? The answer is a big loud No! Why are we distributing portions of these New Codes? Is it because there are some errors found in them? Or did we simply had no access to them, if so, we now do, the complete Symbolic Codes can be found at the Carroll Library at Baylor University, Waco Texas.”(SAM/GRAHAM REPORT)

“11 SC. No. 2 actually contains in excess of twenty-six pages. Why are we only distributing the first fourteen pages? In addition, we are not even distributing page fourteen in its entirety. Why! Why! Why see Exhibit “I” No. 3. We are splitting Symbolic Codes and even splitting pages so as to avoid the errors found therein.”(SAM/GRAHAM REPORT)

NOTE: These questions was asked of the Waco brethren and as far as we know never answered from Waco and now we ask this question anew to Mt. Dale. Very Important questions that should be answered if we are to get to the bottom of this controversy!

Main Differences —

There appears two main differences (generally speaking) with the new code teachings and the original codes published by VTH.

1) Jacobs time of trouble occurs before Ezek. 9 per the new codes
2) Jacobs time of trouble occurs after Ezek. 9 per original codes

1) The new codes shows the “Confederacy” making severe trouble to Davidians (possible death decrees, going before Gov. councils to answer for our faith, etc.) before Ezek. 9.
2) The original codes do not show this

Summary —-

As this issue has come before us, let us take it seriously and look at all the information to properly decide. We are counseled to “weigh the evidence”. This short report is general in nature and certainly some other brethren may have additional information to show opposition to believing the new codes as inspired.

One important point I would like to make is that we are NOT advocating that Mt. Dale is a false organization. We believe that it and Waco are two organizations that God is using to bring the Truth to Mother and spread His Elijah message. We remain committed to supporting Mt. Dale

Let’s ask the Lord to “guide us into all Truth (John 16:13) He will not fail us. Thank you for your consideration to this important matter.

Three reports to help weigh the subject–

1) Sam/Graham Report http://www.davidiansda.org/NewCodes-BRC.pdf

2) Stanford Report https://drive.google.com/…/1Zhnz7K_Uqbtjf6RTB-lkI_GHfA…/view

2) HEARYETHEROD Report https://hearyetherod.wordpress.com/…/…/14/authorized-by-who/

Applicable Quotes —-

“Hear and Count the Evidences on Both Sides Before Firing For or Against “ (GCS cover page)

“WARNING.
Do Not Deeper Fall Into the Pit But Get Out.—Teachers of Present Truth, having before them the example of the tragic results caused by conflicting teachings by the S.D.A. ministry and, in addition to this, having been repeatedly warned to teach only that which has been revealed, and published, stand in great condemnation before God when they set forth conflicting or unauthorized views on any subject. Be absolutely certain that you are teaching according to that which is written, and not according to that which you may think should be or will some day be written. Failure to comply with this requirement will disqualify anyone as a worker in this cause.” (SC, vol. 3, no. 5-6, p.14)

“There is no excuse for anyone in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation.” (CWE, p. 35)

NOTE: the above was submitted to Mt. Dale FB website “Golden Bowl Ministries” , we await their reply.

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Mt. Dale Reviews the New Codes

11 Aug

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This week a very big event occurred within the Davidian world. Mountain Dale decided to at long last bring the long simmering issue of the new codes to the fore front. They made it a top priority of discussion items for this year’s session in New York. God’s Spirit is moving brethren, rest assured.

SOP counsels us —

“There is no excuse for anyone in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation.” (CWE, p. 35)

We often quote that to Mother, yet it might as well be very applicable to us about the new code issue! Our long-held “doctrine” among many DSDA that the new codes are part of the Golden Bowl will not lose anything upon close investigation–if it is truth.

Ok a little back drop before we begin. This author came into the message in May of 2011. Soon after, we were made aware of the controversy about the new codes. Unfortunately some “militant” brethren tried to tell us that the new codes are “evil” or “the work of Satan” etc. Those who believe in them and proclaim them are lost.

Not knowing the “whole picture” and being relatively new to the Rod message we tended to side with this idea. But over the years we discovered that there truly is “two sides” to the issue. Thus we came to the conclusion that instead of being dogmatic like some brethren, we prefer to see this issue as a “how readest thou” issue instead of a  “condemn them at all costs” issue. But this is a whole separate report in itself.

But nevertheless we were persuaded that the new codes really should not be a part of the Golden Bowl. There is just too much problems with them (authorization, errors, historical blunders, etc.).  So we began to reach out to other brethren with our understanding of the issue.

One brother, we’ll call brother H, is one of the leaders at Mt. Dale. We were able to present to him over a period of a couple of years, certain reports and analysis of the new code situation. Soon this brother began to tell us that he was of similar belief in these codes after thorough study. This was truly a break through we thought!

Apparently this brother is enough of a leader that he began to work with some brethren at Mt. Dale, to open up to their understanding the many issues that were conveniently hidden from view for agenda reasons. Well God’s Truth does not stay down for long, it has now surfaced at Mt. Dale–praise the Lord!

SOP counsels us again–

“The Lord often works where we least expect Him; He surprises us by revealing His power through instruments of His own choice, while He passes by the men to whom we have looked as those through whom light should come. God desires us to receive the truth upon its own merits–because it is truth.” (TM. p 105 -106)

This new code issue is surely being revealed by “instruments of His own choice” and not necessarily through the leaders of the DSDA “men to whom we have looked as those through whom light should come”. This session is an example case.

Ok fast forward to a couple of days ago at session.

This year’s session unfortunately has experienced a lack of proper planning. The management decided to livestream it through Facebook instead of years past when they did it though Live stream.com, a regular online live streaming media site that enables you to store and file the videos away for future viewing. This we feel was a big mistake. It makes the presentation look much more amateurish . We ARE the highest light bearers of the world brethren we need to keep this in mind!

So the discussion day came and they announced that “Rob Peralta’s” website would be quoted as “opposition” to the new codes evidence. Instead of going into some close examination of the following report they decide to quote just a couple of paragraphs. But they did quote some of the Rod references we used to counter the idea of publishing hearsay and rumors.

https://hearyetherod.wordpress.com/2013/01/13/the-codes-whats-the-facts/

To begin with, unfortunately the two higher-ups with Mt. Dale who do not support the new codes had to leave back home shortly before this discussion began. So we became the defacto response. Briefly  speaking, our post was not helpful as they did not go much into it. But they did make sure to present brother Errol Stanford.

As many of us know ES is similar to brother Norman Archer at Waco, both are really the “leaders” of the organizations, even though there may be a figure-head (VP).

ES presented the pro-code position. Mainly the idea that because some of the old-timer witnesses remember the sermon addresses (ie. sister Bonnie Smith) they must be true codes and worthy of putting into the Bowl. Their idea is that the word “publish” can also mean verbal things remembered. Now this brethren is what is called — mental gymnastics or a big stretch.

But that really is not the main issue. As we posted already the main issue is authorization, who did it and why? If it was not done by the prophet then this issue should really be a mute point. Can anyone add writings to the Golden Bowl?? This is basic fundamental DSDA teaching (Zech. 4) ONLY the prophets can do that!

See this post —

https://hearyetherod.wordpress.com/2018/07/14/authorized-by-who/

As mentioned the Lord is working on this issue. The discussion left a sour taste in some brethren as it truly was a “one sided” discussion. Imagine if you will a presidential debate where one side gets 90% allotted time to present and the other gets 10% –???

This author in the comment section has announced that he will post a “formal and open” post to Mt. Dale via the FB website addressing this issue and asking some serious questions that the leadership of Mt. Dale should address. Other wise this issue will fester and not really heal as it should.

We will update you soon as to ongoing events. In the meantime brethren we really do need your prayers to help us present something that will hopefully provoke inquiring minds to investigate this issue further and come to the preponderance of evidence which will show this issue as compromised and thus should be no part of the Golden Bowl.

Specific Truths from the Prophet

4 Aug

We’d like to share some statements from the Elijah prophet. We have included some that we feel particularly important and timely for us today.

The first one makes some important distinctions on our “sigh and crying”.

  “As long as you keep wavering on Present Truth, your sighing and crying will be too feeble and insufficient to place the seal of God in your forehead — on display; that is, openly confessing that you are a disciple of Christ;..”(Sym. Code, Vol.2, no. 5-6, p.8)

This short paragraph is packed with some solid info. First we notice that there are degrees of  ‘sighing and crying”. In other words it’s possible that we can “dabble” in the message and think we are sealed. Kinda like one toe in the water, not fully going forward and “openly confessing” we believe in Him, as evidenced by our proclaiming His message. Unfortunately the ones who go forward in admitting and proclaiming the message of Elijah, with only a superficial effort, a half-hearted effort, can be in serious jeopardy of not getting the seal of God in their foreheads.

There are points we wish to bring out here. In Rev.21:8 we read, “But the cowardly …shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.” This goes hand in hand in what brother Houteff just said–“openly confessing that you are a disciple of Christ.”  Not that we just say “I am a Christian” often, no, no! For the heathen who call themselves Christian do that. It’s standing up for the unpopular Elijah message that is to show we are “disciples of Christ” today.

Does someone ask you–“Are you Davidian?'”  Do you admit it or do you deny it?  Does someone ask you to participate in a church abomination, like being a money bag passer in the sanctuary on the Sabbath? Do you agree or say no to it? These are just a couple of the many ways we can show the Lord we are willing to stand up for Him and be counted.

  “Those who are too young in the faith are not required to understand more of the teachings in “The Shepherd’s Rod” than time has permitted them, but they are under obligation to continue studying and to “sigh and cry for all the abominations” in the church. There is no excuse for neglecting this duty. The existing evils in the church are very easily recognized and one must speak even though one may not understand every point of the doctrines…But those who have voluntarily rejected the sealing message, whether they live or die, we suppose have been judged by it. ” (Sym. Code, Vol.2, no.5-6, p.7)

Here we see that we do have two very important duties. To “continue studying” and to “sigh and cry for all the abominations” in the church. Brother Houteff says “one must speak”. We can’t expect to profess the message and then look the other way at the abominations. For to do so, makes us no different from those who have rejected the message, both ignoring the sins of the church. And worse yet many are participating in them. We also notice that just because we don’t understand all the doctrines of the Elijah message, it is most important that we at least speak out about the evils in the church. We show our brethren we are against the sins and not a partaker. Lastly the most solemn statement — those who reject the sealing message will be judged by it. It’s our present truth that we are to accept or deny.

In summary, let us remember our lesson for today. 1) We show courage and stand up for the Lord by admitting and confessing that we accept and obey the Elijah message  2) We sigh and cry , not with an occasional or weak voice, but with a consistent and straight forward appeal, concerning the sins done in our midst (church and our own lives). 3) We are active and continue to study the message, it’s our primary focus today. 4) We advance in our walk and proclaim the message whenever possible.

May He give you wisdom.

The Codes – What’s The Facts?

13 Jan

As many of us are aware among Davidians, the Symbolic news codes are important writings from the Elijah prophet-Victor Houteff. However, there is a controversy among us as to the  “new codes” and the “old codes”. What we’d like to do in this post is state our observations of what stands out as clear facts in this issue. Then hopefully you’ll be in a better position to judge the issue, upon prayer submission to the Lord.

The term “old codes” usually describes those symbolic news code publications published by the brother Houteff  himself while he was alive (he died on Feb.5, 1955) . They include the following –Vol.1  No.1 July 15, 1934 through Vol.10  No.2  Dec. 1954. There were a total of 46 issues published. The “new” or “unpublished” codes were –Vol.10  No.7, May 1955  through Vol. 13  No.11, Sept-Oct. 1958.  There was a total of 21 issues published.

After brother Houteff died, the story goes that Mrs. Houteff had found some of VTH’s news codes that were in files and had never been published by the prophet while he lived. So in the months following his death, she led out the unpublished codes with this statement to Davidians (followers of bro. Houteff’s Elijah message)

AN UNPUBLISHED LETTER OF INTEREST

– INTRODUCTION –

The following excerpts from a letter written in 1932 by Brother V.T. Houteff to a Seventh-day Adventist Elder is being published at this time not only because of some early historic facts it contains, but also because of its other statements of interest.  (By way of explanation, we point out that the letter was written after The Shepherd’s Rod, Vol. 1 was printed but before Vol. 2 came.)

So this was the start of “her” publishing career.The first and most obvious question is–why didn’t bro. Houteff publish these code articles while he was alive? It is a well documented fact that he was a very meticulous man, watching over minute details of the “camp” at the Waco grounds. So we are truly perplexed why they remained in the files. Could it had been that he, being “inspired” was told not to publish them for some reason? Being closely in tune with the Lord, could he have realized somehow that something was amiss in the unpublished codes? Whatever the reason,  the Lord saw fit that VTH wasn’t suppose to publish them and therefore he didn’t.

Another interesting fact is this. On Feb. 17, 1959,  a close associate of brother Houteff sent a letter to Florence Houteff warning her of her wrong paths. In this letter he specifically called out her “private programs” of the “new code” and new “Carmel”. So some of the original members of the camp at Mt. carmel knew clearly that these new codes were part of “their” private programs. In other words they mixed in their agenda in promoting them. For the letter, click here –http://www.shepherds-rod.org/dsdaboard/study/reply.htm

In studying the original code articles published by brother Houteff, we as Davidians,  marvel at the great light that the Lord gave him to write and bless us with. Such as —

Vol. 7 No. 7 – 12
July – December, 1941
MT. CARMEL CENTER
Lake Waco Texas
Lightening The Earth

DO YOU KNOW?

 Dear brethren in Laodicea, do you know that prophecy positively declares that the people of God in the Laodicean church are in a critically dangerous condition and know it not?  Well, brethren, whether or not you realize it, whether or not you believe it, that precisely is the case.  And if you hope to enter into eternal life, you must believe it, and that without delay.  Whatever else you may believe or disbelieve, this one thing you must, “for it is the True Witness who speaks, and His testimony must be correct.”–Testimonies, Vol. 3, p. 253.

And remember that above all people, the Laodiceans should not only be the last but the least inclined to criticize, for they themselves, says the True Witness, are “wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked,” without so much as suspecting it, but are indeed even imagining that they are “rich, and increased with goods, and” in “need of nothing” (Rev. 3:17).  How, then, can they be in a position truly to know anything about others!

Think, brethren, and rouse to life!  This cannot possibly be the voice of an enemy.

And remember that the Lord “surprises us by revealing His power through instruments of His own choice, while He passes by the men to whom we have looked as those through whom light should come.  God desires us to receive the truth upon its own merits,–because it is truth.”–Testimonies to Ministers, p. 106

It is very important to note that we (us Davidians) have studied the original codes thoroughly and have found it is in complete harmony through out the publications! We say this to bring to your attention the distinction between the published original and the unpublished posthumous codes.

Before we get to the problem areas of the latter codes, let’s look at some important points that we should discuss. After brother Houteff died there was a power struggle for leadership. Many believed that brother E.T. Wilson was the man VTH had chosen for the job of leader (Vice president). However, Mrs. Houteff, the very next day after VTH’s death called a executive council meeting! The body wasn’t even cold yet! What’s worse is she tried to discuss her future compensation! **

The above is quite disturbing on several counts. Who among us, that really loves our significant other, calls a meeting the very next day to discuss something such as money and other business?? This leads to the next question. What spiritual condition was she in and what motivated her to “lead”  in spiritual matters? Obviously we Davidians are supposed to be the greatest light bearers to the people (most truth known and to spread) and as such the leader of this movement is to be a person beyond reproach.

Additionally, Mr. Wilson was completely shut out of the decision-making on choosing the new leader.** Sadly the Mt. Carmel camp got off on the wrong foot after brother Houteff’s death  and went downhill from there. (** Source “A Davidian Testimony” by D. Adair) (Later in 1962, Mrs. Houteff went apostate and denied the Davidian message and even Ellen White!)

So knowing all this, we can see that “her” leadership and decision to take upon herself the act of publishing written articles of brother Houteff most likely wasn’t inspired, contrasting with fact that the “inspired” man saw to it not to publish them. And further he never issued an order or direction to have them published later or at any time!

Ok, let’s look at the heart of the matter–the contradictions of the writings in the unpublished codes.

Contradictions —         1)  Jonah typology 2) Jacob’s time of trouble  3) Which trumpet is sounding today? 4) Where did Jesus spend 3 days and nights?  5) Assyrian  confederacy

1) The original writings say that Jonah is a type of Christ

Ref– Elisha was a symbol of Christ.  Prophets and Kings, page 240: “Like the Saviour of mankind, of whom he was a type, Elisha in his ministry among men combined the work of healing with that of teaching.”  These are the reasons why Isaac, Jonah, and Elisha are types of Christ, representing the different phases and imports of the work of Christ. (reference Shep. Rod, Vol. 1, p.16-17)

The UN codes says Jonah is a type of message

The whole story of Jonah’s experience, you see, is more than a record of what happened to him.  It is a picture of the experience of God’s everliving church. ( ref. Sym.code, vol.11, no.8, p. 10-11)

This Jonah issue isn’t as strong a contradiction as the others,  nevertheless it is one.

2)The orignal writings say Jacob’s time of trouble is after Ezek. 9.

(The following is brother Houteff’s timeline of events that happen after Ezek.9 and was written in the period of the original codes. For clarification we omitted the other events and started with Ezek.9)

Ref–  4. That the destruction of the tares from among the first fruits of the living (Matt. 13:30, 48, 49; Ezek. 9:6, 7) results in the purification of the church.

5.   That immediately thereafter, the angels let loose the four winds (Rev. 7:1-3), whereupon ensues the time of trouble and Michael’s standing up to deliver from it, all whose names are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life (Dan. 12:1).

6.   That the angels’ letting loose the four winds to blow over the four corners of the earth (Rev. 7:1), does not anticipate a world war but rather a world-wide decree enforced throughout Babylon by the image-beast, and that then no one may buy or sell save he who worships “the image.” Rev. 13:15-17.

7.   That subsequently, the time of Jacob’s trouble (Jer. 30:7) for the 144,000, the sons of Jacob, logically develops on their way home (Gen. 32:1, 24) to the land of their fathers (Ezek. 36:28; 37:21, 25).(ref. Timely Greetings, Vol.2, no.10 p.29) 

The UN codes say before Ezek.9

On September 21, 1936 Brother Houteff made the remarks concerning the possibility of trouble coming to the church after the sealing of the saints and before the slaughter of Ezekiel 9, and if so what the results would be and why.  Since Revelation 11 has more recently been unfolded before us we should be able to see that it is not just a possibility, but rather both a fact and approaching reality that trouble is coming to the church before the slaughter of Ezekiel 9.  None therefore need be ignorant concerning what we must now be doing about it.)(ref. Sym. code, vol.11, no.7, p.3)

This issue is a biggie, as some in Davidia have taught expanded scenarios that comes from this. Notice clearly how bro. Houteff makes the no. 7(Jacob’s trouble) in his timeline happen after Ezek.9 in unfolding events. Then see in the Un (unpublished by VTH) codes that  Mrs. Houteff (or someone else) announces the “approaching reality” of trouble (meaning Jacob’s trouble) coming to the church “before the slaughter of Ezek.9”. Keep in mind these “facts and approaching reality” words were not said by the prophet!

3) The Orig. writings say the  6th trumpet began right before 1844.

Ref– ” The altar’s being in the holy apartment of the sanctuary at the sounding of the sixth trumpet, proves that the trumpet sounded before the Most Holy apartment was opened for use.  For had it been in use, the “voice” would necessarily have come from therein, where the throne is.  Hence, the sounding of this trumpet had to take place before the door of the Most Holy was opened and the throne occupied.”(Tract 5 p.31)

The Un codes say the 6th trumpet is yet to sound.

Ref– In view of the fact that we are not living in the sixth trumpet, let us ascertain whether we may be in the sounding of the fifth trumpet, or whether it, too, is yet future.( Un Sym.code, Vol.12, no.2, p.4

Ref– The fifth trumpet, therefore, sounded when Christ came nearly 2,000 years ago.  We find ourselves therefore living in the period of the sounding of the fifth trumpet — the Christian period — before the sounding of the sixth trumpet.(Same Un code, p.8)

Wow, now if that is not a total contradiction, we don’t know what is! First the orig. codes says the 6th trumpet sounded right before Christ entered the most holy apartment in 1844, thus we are now living between the 6th and 7th trumpet. Then the Un codes says we’re not sure if the 5th trumpet sounded yet,  or it has and we’re living in it, and still before the 6th trumpet. Can we say total confusion? Both inspired writings? Certainly it cannot be.

4) Where did Jesus spend 3 days and nights? The orig. writings say the following–

Ref–Now mark, that from the time the Jews laid hands on Christ (Thursday the 12th hour) to His resurrection (Sunday the 12th hour), there were exactly seventy-two hours or three days and three nights.  Thus fulfilling the words of Jesus: “For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.” (Matt. 12:40.)  The idea that in the “heart of the earth” means in the grave, is man’s supposition without Bible foundation.

If the Saviour had in mind His experience in the grave, He would have said so.  If His grave was in the center of the earth — about 4,000 miles beneath its surface (the heart of the earth) then one may suppose He meant the heart of the earth.  Jesus used the expression to indicate that He was to be three days and three nights in the hands of sinners, and in the grave.  Why are sinners called “The heart of the earth”?  Because man was made of it according to Gen. 3:19, “For dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.”( Shep. Rod, Vol.2, p.25)

The Un code says–

Ref– In our study of the three days and three nights what light did we receive to help us? — That the heart of the earth was not the tomb, but rather Jesus was in reality in the power or in the hands of the church for three days and three nights even though part of that time He was dead and in the tomb.(Un code, vol.11, no.8 p.6)

This one is another minor contradiction, in that the differences appear to be that the orig. code says He was in the hands of the Jews and in the tomb. Other says He was in the hands of the “church”.

5) The original writings say the following about what we are to do with the upcoming “Assyrian Confederacy” —

In addressing what we should do about the Assyrian confederacy, bro. Houteff says–

Ref– The fear which the people fear is not to be our fear; neither are their plans to be our plans.  Our duty is to–Isa. 8:13 — “Sanctify the Lord of hosts Himself; and let Him be your fear, and let Him be your dread.”

   To sanctify the Lord is to be all for Him, to have no one else in His stead, to put your entire trust in Him, not making flesh your arm, for He alone is able to see you through.  And though you should be the only one in all the world to take such a stand, He will not fail you.  If such be your case, you will then become Heaven’s greatest hero.(Timely greetings, vol. 2, no.20)

The Un code says —

Ref– God’s people are not only commanded not to participate in the confederacy, but they are to oppose it “to all them to whom this people shall say, A confederacy.”(Un code, vol.13, no.8, 4:8)

The  upcoming Assyrian conspiracy is addressed in the original writings with the direction to rely on the Lord when it comes. The un codes tell us to “oppose it, implying we should take actions among ourselves to go against it.

So we see that there are some real distinct contradictions in the unpublished codes compared to the original writings of brother Houteff. Knowing this, we can better understand God’s divine plan to not have them published. It is only, and we repeat–only the decision of a woman whom, as we have seen, took it upon herself to publish the writings.

However, all the above being said we would like to make a final point about the unpublished writings. We have read through some of them and have to be honest. We feel that some and we emphasis “some”, are most likely brother Houteff’s writings. For instance, let’s take a look at one of the file codes that Florence Houteff published , volume 13, no. 5 & 6.

In this code article we see the following question asked–

THE SABBATH WHAT IS IT?  WHEN IS IT?FOR WHOM IS IT?   A Truth-seeker writes: “I am sending you literature on the seemingly Scriptural doctrine that the Bible Sabbath falls on Friday not on Saturday nor on Sunday.  It looks to me unanswerable.  Please give me a

STRICTLY BIBLICAL REPLY.”

Now if we continue to read the answer given, we are astounded at the depth and degree of knowledge that makes up the answer. Please read it if you can. So what are we to make of this? We truly believe that the answer given could have come from no other than brother Houteff.http://www.shepherds-rod.org/symbolic/SC13No5and6.htm

So are the unpublished codes truth or not? The simple answer is yes and no. But that being said, we believe they have been tampered with, such as the example of the contradictions. Could Mrs. Houteff  or others in her office added to the writings? Yes, quite possibly. Let’s also keep in mind no transcripts or notes have ever appeared of these postmortem codes. We only have Florence Houteff’s word for it. But again, even if they were to appear, the simple fact that apparently brother Houteff did not want them published speaks volumes as to whether God intended us to use them as inspired writings.

As proof of her and her council’s lack of trustworthiness, they later conspired at Mt. Carmel to falsely interpret the 42 month prophecy and make the announcement for all the world to see that Ezek. 9 was going to happen at a certain date (early 1959).Even going so far as to publish their own code predicting it would happen! Here’s the wording they used,   “If the message and work of the Shepherd’s Rod is God’s truth as we believe it to be, the 1260 days of Revelation as the Symbloic Codes have explained, will end sometime this Spring. Then will follow the war that will kill the Two Witnesses.”(Sym. Code,  vol. 14, no.6, p.8).   The fiasco was/is  known as the “knockout blow” predicted by brother Houteff.

The unpublished codes can be useful for our “own” reading. Sort of like historical reading. They should not be quoted publicly as a reference due to the fact that tampering  has clearly been made. The alternative,  God forbid, is that we would have no choice but  to believe that bro. Houteff  made clear contradictions(errors) and as such wasn’t inspired. Additionally we often found phrasing/use of words in the unpublished codes that didn’t compare to brother Houteff’s original codes and writings.

Additionally, some may want to read the thorough report by bro. Lennox Sam and Michael Graham that give powerful evidence that the “new codes” contain irregularities  and in some cases — out right errors. As an example, they write, “Just another note of observation we failed to mention. Brother Houteff has published 98 sermons in the Timely Greetings Volumes One and Two, and not once have we found prayer thoughts to be over a paragraph or so long. In these purported sermons delivered by Brother Houteff, there are prayer thoughts four pages long. This does not resemble Brother Houteff’s sermons.”

Their report also reveals a striking fact. Much missing pages are not included in the current “new codes”. They explain–

“Brethren, we would like to draw your attention to some more startling facts. The symbolic codes in the 5 volumes now being distributed are not complete Codes there are many missing pages, which are shown in Exhibit “I”. Was this an oversight or were these pages lost, as some brethren were told? The answer is a big loud No! Why are we distributing portions of these New Codes? Is it because there are some errors found in them? Or did we simply had no access to them, if so, we now do, the complete Symbolic Codes can be found at the Carroll Library at Baylor University, Waco Texas.

The New Symbolic Codes are either all truth or no truth, all right or all wrong, and if they are all right, then distribute them in their entirety. If portions of them are wrong then discard them all and stick to that which was published by Brother V. T. Houteff and we will be standing on the sure foundation. Why are we holding on to publications with a shaky foundation?

3. Please note that 11 SC. No. 2 actually contains in excess of twenty-six pages. Why are we only distributing the first fourteen pages? In addition, we are not even distributing page fourteen in its entirety. Why! Why! Why see Exhibit “I” No. 3. We are splitting Symbolic Codes and even splitting pages so as to avoid the errors found therein. Isn’t there enough literature published by the Prophet to prepare us to receive the seal, go through Jacob’s time of trouble and finally board the chariot bound for the Kingdom?”

http://www.davidiansda.org/NewCodes-BRC.pdf

We should also remember that the original published codes and writings  have all the light we need and comprise the total clear Elijah message, to bring us into God’s soon to come earthly kingdom. Do we need to add such confusion and disruption to the Elijah message, and make it foder for the enemies of truth to use as a weapon against the Lord’s message? The Lord’s Elijah message, as we all know, stands on solid ground in it’s original writings. Not so with the Florence Houteff codes.

Let us remember that we should always seek the Lord in prayer on any study of His word, including His last message, as brought by brother Houteff. We should claim the Lord’s promise “When He, the Spirit of Truth, has come,  He shall guide you into all truth..” (John 16:13)