Authorized by Who?

14 Jul

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Recently on our sister FB group “Golden Bowl Ministries” the subject of the “new codes” came up again. This subject rises up every so often among us as there really is a mixed and divided view on them. Let us look at an important aspect of these codes.

We have dealt with this subject before and we mostly focused on why they are not to be relied upon, but this post we’ll look at it from another angle.

See this link for our other report  —

When we start to understand the new code situation we MUST look at it first and foremost from the point of authorization. After all the divine injunction to publish inspiration is a directive by our Lord, it is not happenstance or man’s private doing.

The Rod in fact declares —

“..this prophetic organ “The Symbolic Code,” proves to be the mouth piece of the Elijah message, leading hundreds of S.D.A.’s in the work of helping this message to restore the defunct and decadent institutes of the Christian religion.”(SC, vol. 2, no.9, p.2)

“This Association shall hold regular sessions at such time and place as the Executive Council shall designate by a notice published in The Symbolic Code, the official organ of the organization..” (Leviticus Tract, p.7)

We all know that brother Houteff was, according to all accounts, a meticulous and orderly man of God.  He ran the camp with order and a system. But even more so was he extremely conscientious of the Inspired works which God had laid upon him  to write and publish. This we all can agree to.

In the Rod brother Houteff was asked about the subject of what to believe and teach.


Question No. 133:

   “The Symbolic Code” says: “Teach only that which is published.” Will you please explain whether this restriction is Intended to include Bible, Spirit of Prophecy, and “The Shepherd’s Rod” literature, all together, or just the  writings of the “Rod”?


   The Bible and the books of the Spirit of Prophecy being the sole source of The Shepherd’s Rod message, therefore when the Rod is taught, the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy are taught. And since none but the Spirit of Truth who transmitted  the mysteries of Inspiration can interpret them, then those who attempt to teach them without  this Inspired interpretational authority inevitably fall into the forbidden practice of private interpretation (2 Pet. 1 :20)–the great evil which has brought Christendom into its present almost-boundless state of schism and consequent confusion, strife, and impotency.

   As we dare not follow in such a path, we must therefore, as teachers of The Shepherd’s Rod (the official publications of the Davidian Seventh-day Association), teach only in the light of the Rod those passages which in one way or another need to be interpreted. Thus only will all Present-truth believers ever become of the same mind, seeing eye to eye and speaking the same things (1 Cor. 1:10; 1 Pet. 3:8; Isa. 52:8).

   And such as do choose to engage in private  interpretation are respectfully asked to desist from teaching in the name of the Rod and at its expense. Let them like honest men, teach in their own names and at their own expense. (Answerer, vol. 5, p.55-56)

Question: “It is claimed by some that Sr. White made the statement that the Loud Cry message would come through the Review & Herald. Is there such a statement?”

   Answer: As to the claim that Sr. White said the “Loud Cry message” would come through the Review & Herald, we cannot answer authoritatively from a personal knowledge, for our acquaintance with her unpublished works is more limited than extensive, but from those unpublished writings (and they are not less than a 100) which we have had the privilege of reading, we would be led to scout the possibility of her ever having written or made such a statement. We quote what she counsels in regard to accepting just such reports:

   “And now to all who have a desire for truth I would say, Do not give credence to unauthenticated reports as to what Sr. White has done or said or written. If you desire to know what the Lord has revealed through her, read her published works. Are there any points of interest concerning which she has not written, do not eagerly catch up and report rumors as to what she has said.” — 5 T 696.

   Moreover, if the SRod is present truth, and Sr. White a true prophet, she could never have made such a statement except it had reference to the messages at that time and not now. (Vol. 1 Symbolic Code No. 8  pg. 9)

“Be absolutely certain that you are teaching according to that which is written, and not according to that which you may think should be or will some day be written. Failure to comply with this requirement will disqualify anyone as a worker in this cause.” (SC, vol. 3, no.5,6  p.14)

Notice in the top reference that only the “official publications of the Davidian Seventh-day Association” constitutes the –Shepherd’s Rod. We can thus see that nothing published without the “official” sanction of the DSDA can be part of the Rod led by the prophet only. This is plain and clear.

In the second reference we see that the Rod gives another important counsel. we are not to go by hearsay. Nothing is to be believed except it be from her “published works.” Same goes for the Rod principal no doubt.

Here we have to point out that it is well known that Ellen White gave instructions that upon her death they were free to publish her works in the files that had not yet been published. The Rod definitely did not have those instructions given by brother Houteff concerning publishing any of the file reports upon his death! This is an important point to remember.

So in order to get to the bottom of this authorization question we must look at Florence Houteff.

All who have studied the historical accounts , know that Florence decided on the very next day after VTH’s death to call a council meeting! This alone should raise all kinds of red flags. Can we even think about a non-Christian spouse doing something like this?? Let alone a supposed member of the group known as the highest light bearers in the world, a very inner circle member of the Davidian Seventh-day Adventists??

No brethren we cannot truly fathom such a thing. This should let us know that some spirit other than God’s was leading! To lose your spouse unexpectedly of almost 20 years and then the very next day call a business meeting, to discuss among other things your future compensation is truly disturbing on all accounts. Yet  this is what the Davidian  Association found itself in upon the prophet’s death.

Instead of the man who was to lead the association, E.T. Wilson, being at the helm, we had a power driven, controlling woman take the helm. Thus from that point on the “official” title and purpose  of the association was called into question. The only existing DSDA group was now led by an truly unofficial leader, who took the leadership by hook and crook.

“God’s people should ever be on the alert for the voice of the Spirit of Christ, as well as be on guard to discern the spirit of Satan.” (Tract 15, p.84)

With this historical back drop, we can then look at her moves that led to the publication of the new codes. Among her first public declarations came in the new codes.

Vol. 10 The Symbolic Code No. 7

Vol. 10 No. 7

MAY, 1955


Printed May, 1955




  The following excerpts from a letter written in 1932 by Brother V.T. Houteff to a Seventh-day Adventist Elder is being published at this time not only because of some early historic facts it contains, but also because of its other statements of interest. (By way of explanation, we point out that the letter was written after The Shepherd’s Rod, Vol. 1 was printed but before Vol. 2 came.) 

We highlighted in red an important part of her new code writings. An admission that what she was about to publish was “unpublished” by the prophet while he was alive. So this fact is established that she, Florence Houteff (along with her handpicked council) now decided to make known and publish all that “she” wanted published. In other words authorization of publishing the new codes laid with Florence Houteff and her council.

Established also is the numerous new codes where she and/or council members added to the new codes with their own words, supposed facts and truths as they saw it!  Now brethren how can we truly accept this mix and match? Part Inspired and part not? No wonder Mother can have a field day when they decide to check out these new codes,  fodder indeed! Truth and error declared as–Truth!

For one of the clearest and most blatant of these additions is the following —

“Brother Houteff made the remarks concerning the possibility of trouble coming to the church after the sealing of the saints and before the slaughter of Ezekiel 9. And if so what the results would be and why. Since Revelation 11 has more recently been unfolded before us, we should be able to see that it is not just a possibility, but rather a fact and an approaching reality that trouble is coming to the church before the slaughter of Ezekiel 9. None therefore need to be ignorant concerning what we must now be doing about it.” (SC, vol. 11, no.7, introduction)

As many have noticed, who says it’s a “fact and approaching reality that trouble is coming to the church before the slaughter of Ezekiel 9….Since Revelation 11 has more recently been unfolded before us”?

What? “a fact and approaching reality”?  Meaning that Revelation 11, specifically the 42 months had “more recently been unfolded before us” ?? Clearly an agenda was set in motion brethren and it came to a head with the knock out blow (April 22, 1959) Florence and her council mixing error with Inspired Truth.

Let us look at another startling example. In 11 SC, vol. 8 , it begins with —

“God has revealed the forty-two-month prophecy to us for no other purpose than that we be made to realize that we individually have no time in cleaning ourselves up with the provisions He has given us, no time to lose in getting our divinely-appointed work done in the church…”

The above was added to the Golden Bowl! Yes, Florence Houteff’s words
“God has revealed the forty-two-month prophecy to us”  is an outright lie brethren yet some accept it as part of the Bowl! The Blue Book has it right there for Mother to read!

Why do we accept Florence Houteff’s words in the Bowl when she was not a prophetess of God? Please explain that to us. Why should we not start adding , for example, Waco or Mt. Dale’s recent Code articles as well? We all know that would be ridiculous, why is it any different with Florence Houteff?

The Lord, remember through brother Houteff said ,”“The Symbolic Code,” proves to be the mouth piece of the Elijah message”. Anything written in this “INSPIRED” mouth piece of the message –MUST BE INSPIRED! Thus the new codes have Florence Houteff and/or her council writing in It!  Can we accept that and not say they are tainted?? Cmon brethren let’s be real about this.

“Since we are in constant contact with the Lord’s headquarters, we are able to give you firsthand information, not hearsay, concerning the things on which you need truthful and concrete intelligence… I am sure you believe the Bible prophets not because of what they personally were, but because of what they wrote through inspiration.  Why not do the same with the “Rod”?  Why do you try to judge it by gossip and hearsay?” (Jezreel Letter, no. 7, p.1-2)

Was that communication line cut upon the death of brother Houteff? It was not because the “original writings” through the authorized publications by VTH still speak to us but certain individuals such as Florence Houteff did indeed attempt to cut it for the sake of their private agenda. History clearly bears this out.

Can we think that anyone can put “oil” –truth into the Golden Bowl at their discretion, especially  without any documentation showing the prophet authorizing such addition after his death? At least our S.D.A brethren have such authorization IN WRITING from our prophetess. We as Davidian SDA have nothing except to trust in Florence Houteff.

It would be one thing if we had manuscripts, notes , or card files of ALL disputed codes for PROOF and to allay the doubts but we do not. All we have is implicit trust of someone who proved herself untrustworthy from the very first day of brother Houteff’s death. Think this through brethren. What leap of illogical faith this takes!

In closing, we cannot accept the private authorization by Florence Houteff/her council of these new codes because the Lord works with Truth and not deception, falsehood and private agendas. Let all those who want the Truth stay clear of these new codes and stand on the original published writings of the prophet–published by the prophet. Then we know we stand firm upon the Rock of Truth.


8 Responses to “Authorized by Who?”

  1. Max July 14, 2018 at 11:10 pm #

    Please read prophets and Kings pages 587 to 592 for a description of the time of trouble for the 144,000..

    • godsloveandlaw July 15, 2018 at 12:45 am #

      Thanks for this lead. It’s important to realize the context of which EGW wrote concerning this trouble. if one adds up all the clues in those pages, however, one sees that it is describing not just the 144,000 but the great multitude as well.

      Although she says, “But here is a little company who are resisting his supremacy” she describes many more other statements such as “in the near future he will stir up the wicked powers of earth to destroy the people of God. Men will be required to render obedience to human edicts in violation of the divine law.” This can only be during the Sunday Law , which we know as present truth believers in AFTER Ezek. 9. As Ezek. 9 and the sealings (completion) are one and the same (Testimonies to Ministers, p.445) this trouble she describes cannot be the 144,000 solely. But the time period is clear–after Ezek. 9

      So as she describes trouble to that “little company” she is describing it in the time of the Sunday Law. Further to say that the 144,000 will suffer persecution and be hindered in learning the message, is to say the winds have been let loose which, again we as Rod believers know is not possible until all the 144,000 are sealed (per Rev. 7:1-4)

    • Max July 15, 2018 at 2:07 am #

      While Satan has been urging his accusations, holy angels, unseen, have been passing to and fro, placing upon the faithful ones the seal of the living God. These are they that stand upon Mount Zion with the Lamb, having the Father’s name written in their foreheads. …….PK 591.2

      This prophecy clearly is referring to the 144,000 . The rod also teaches this prophecy is specifically for the 144,000.

      • godsloveandlaw July 15, 2018 at 4:18 am #

        “The rod also teaches this prophecy is specifically for the 144,000.” Do you have Rod references? By that I mean the Rod showing PK, p.587-592 applies it pre-Ezek. 9 time?

  2. Max July 15, 2018 at 1:58 am #

    While Satan has been urging his accusations, holy angels, unseen, have been passing to and fro, placing upon the faithful ones the seal of the living God. These are they that stand upon Mount Zion with the Lamb, having the Father’s name written in their foreheads. …….PK 591.2

    This prophecy clearly is referring to the 144,000 . The rod also teaches this prophecy is specifically for the 144,000.

    • Max July 15, 2018 at 5:02 am #

      It is Zechariah chapter 3 that sister white is commenting on.. the rod also attributes the same prophecy to the 144,000 . The same spirit inspired both writers interpretations.

      • godsloveandlaw July 15, 2018 at 5:54 am #

        First, in regard to trouble coming to us Davidians, we do not disagree that trouble indeed has come and is still coming, let us read–

        Isa. 66:5, 6 — “Hear the Word of the Lord, ye that tremble at His Word; Your brethren that hated you, that cast you out for My name’s sake, said, Let the Lord be glorified: but He shall appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed. A voice of noise from the city, a voice from the temple, a voice of the Lord that rendereth recompence to His enemies.”

        “Some have already had the experience of being carried bodily out of the churches for no other reason than for having read “The Shepherd’s Rod,” and for having said, “I believe what It says.” Of course, it is incredible that men should act like demons. It is nevertheless so, and God Himself testifies against their demon practice.

        We do not pity ourselves, and are not at all angry at our adversaries, but we are sorry about their spiritual blindness, misery, poverty, and nakedness, for we know that the coming joy is to be ours, and the sorrow and shame and gnashing of teeth, theirs. This we know as verily as Jacob knew that God was with him in his flight from the face of Esau.

        The Esaus of today, though, do not know this. No, they do not know it any more than Esau of old knew of Jacob’s night vision of the ladder that extended from heaven to Jacob’s dew-soaked bed.” (Timely Greetings, Vol. 1, No. 45 , p.14-15)

        This one is VERY revealing! It tells us that an application of Jacob’s time of trouble is happening now. In other word’s, the SDA church is composed of Jacob’s and Esau’s. We see that trouble had come in brother Houteff’s day, and even is now coming from our “Esau”, the unconverted worldly types in the church (especially the leaders).

        So yes the marking angel is going through our churches today and doing his work. We should look at another timely reference —

        “The S.D.A. church, repeating the history of the Jews (5 T 160), will be swayed by its “priests” and “rulers” today to take a course against “the faithful servants of God “similar to that followed by the priests and rulers in their treatment of Christ’s and the apostles’”. As the 144,000 become more and more like their Saviour, “the light of the world.” making manifest the “darkness and error” enveloping the church, the leaders in their “fanatical hatred” of the saints will move “the mob to a mad fury” against them and, in desperation born of blind and raging hatred, will reach out for the civil arm of power to accomplish their evil ends, merging the following type into antitype.”(Sym. Code, vol. 1, no.9, p.3).

        All who live Godly do indeed experience persecution today! Being actively involved in the work I hear reports come in all the time of this persecution. But be careful that you do not have the new code ideas that persecution means the civil authorities come and hinder or stop the 144,000 activities (access to reports, free studies, etc.). yes they can do that in our churches when the Elders call the police to escort Rod believers out (and they do this). But these Rod believers can go to the internet and post away or YouTube , or emails , etc. Or even do as sister Patricia and her siege ministry does– protest from the sidewalks and spread God’s message from there! God’s work is not hindered now.

        In other words be careful you don’t read into any part of the message that there is a civil “stoppage” of our work as striving to be among the 144,000 as this would be the angels releasing the four winds and that will not happen until Ezek. 9

        So the gist of it is that while EGW did not have much light on Ezek.9 (timing) so she did not have much light on the 144,000 and their trouble (timing). We know for a fact she places Ezek. 9 in the time of the plagues, whereas the Rod places in pre- Loud Cry. Thus the Rod restoring truth shows that there is two applications. In the same vein SOP seems to show a mixed time schedule in that reference.

        If you think that there is a intervening time after the sealing and then a civil persecution happens to the DSDA, that is not taught in the Rod (except those who rely on the new codes).

        Are you a believer in the new codes?

  3. godsloveandlaw July 15, 2018 at 9:37 pm #

    As we have went over this privately before let us keep the fundamental SRod beliefs firmly in our minds.

    4. That the destruction of the tares from among the first fruits of the living (Matt. 13:30, 48, 49; Ezek. 9:6, 7) results in the purification of the church.

    5. That immediately thereafter, the angels let loose the four winds (Rev. 7:1-3), whereupon ensues the time of trouble and Michael’s standing up to deliver from
    it, all whose names are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life (Dan. 12:1).

    6. That the angels’ letting loose the four winds to blow over the four corners of the earth (Rev. 7:1), does not anticipate a world war but rather a world-wide decree enforced throughout Babylon by the image-beast, and that then no one may buy or sell save he who worships “the image.” Rev. 13:15-17.

    7. That subsequently, the time of Jacob’s trouble (Jer. 30:7) for the 144,000, the sons of Jacob, logically develops on their way home (Gen. 32:1, 24) to the land of their fathers (Ezek. 36:28; 37:21, 25).(Fundamental Beliefs, p. 13)

    As number 7 timeline is after 4, then obviously Jacob’s time of trouble comes after Ezek. 9 so the trouble you speak of cannot be Jacob’s time of trouble in the primary application.

    We have a 3 part post dealing with this Jacob’s time of trouble if you should want to review it. God bless.

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